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Crow/Leaf/Jay theory
The Jay/Leaf/Crow Theory:
By Lunastar.
A lot of people have been wondering, If Jaypaw, and maybe his other siblings are actually the kit's of Leafpool and Crowfeather, born in secrecy, there is much evidence to back up this interesting theory, for example, in 'The sight' Jaypaw mentions remembering journying through the snow, and asks leafpool if it was the great journey, her response is as follows:
Tension crackled through Leafpool's fur. "No, the Great Journey was long before you were born. But your... your mother did make a long journey with you through the snow when you were very small. You were born outside the hollow, and she had to wait until you were all strong enough to travel."
Notice how she says your mother, not her sisters name, and there is so much tension in her voice, perhaps she was worried Jaypaw would remember somthing else, that she was in fact his mother. After all, it says how he was born outside the hollow, meaning Leafpool and Squirrelflight (As Im sure Leaf would have confessed to her sister) could easily have slipped out whilst Leafpool gave birth, so that no one found out. She also speaks VERY slowly, as if she's trying to make sure she dosen't slip up and say the wrong thing, for eg. "your...your mother" she does not want any information to seep out, perhaps she had her kitten outside ThunderClan camp, possibly either by the Moonpool or near WindClan territory, maybe to be with Crowfeather, and after her kitting, she gave the kits to her sister to raise. They would have a similar smell, after all They are sisters. And the long journey away would cover any scent of Leafpool on the kits.
Somewhere near the end of 'Sunset,' it says how Leafpool has gained some weight, and is looking "rather plump" It could be because their is more food, but it could also be because she is pregnant. Also remember that pregnant cats eat more.
Another peice of evidence, is that to quote "when squirrelflight's milk didn't come" of course her milk wouldn't come, if they weren't her kits in the first place! Not to mention how eager she was to get out of the nursery and back to warrior duties, she would need a little longer to recover, had she actually given birth.
Here's a Clue from Dark river. This happens when Leafpool is telling Jaypaw to find out where Hollypaw is, and provides yet more evidence that Hollypaw is also Leafpool's daughter.
"You have to try now!" Leafpool hissed.
Jaypaw's pelt bristled. "But she's probably just gone off by herself for a bit." What was wrong with Leafpool? She sounded more worried than Squirrelflight!
Who could be more concerned with Hollypaw's disappearance than Squirrelflight? After all, it is assumed that she is her mother. But this quote begs to differ. It is basically showing that Leafpool is much more upset about Hollypaw's absence than her sister, If Leafpool was Hollypaw's rightful mother, than it would prove perfectly normal for her to show so much distress.
A clue from Dark River would be taken from this quite:
Leafpool was staring at her with troubled eyes. "I'm glad you're safe," she meowed.
"I'm sorry I worried everyone," Hollypaw replied.
"Don't do it again." Leafpool's mew was suddenly fierce.
Hollypaw bristled. You sound like my mother!
Leafpool showed a little too much worry in this passage. maybe she would 'sound' like Hollypaw's mother because she really is? Why else would Leafpool be so concerned, and become so fiercely protective of the kit's? They may be her kin, but she seems a little bit TOO worried for simply an aunt.
Another clue taken from Dark River:
Crowfeather was staring at Leafpool, his eyes glittering. "Don't forget, Breezepaw, ThunderClan actually celebrates mixed blood."
Leafpool jerked her head backward as though Crowfeather had raked his claws across her muzzle. She turned quickly and hurried away.
Mixed blood. Why would Crowfeather say such a thing? And why would Leafpool be taken so aback? The only reason that seems logical is that Crowfeather knows about the kits, and that they now belong to THUNDERCLAN.
Here's a quote from Vicky Holmes:
Saharastar: DO Leafpool and Crowfeather have kits together?
Vicky Holmes: This would be way too much of a spoiler! Wait and see, Saharastar...
Why would they conceal the answer to this? Just a straightforward no would end the theory, but instead they are letting us use our imagination...
Lastly, there is the coat colours, and the personailty, Crowfeather is a grey-black stubborn, ill-tempered tom with blue eyes, Jaypaw is a dark-grey stubborn, ill-tempered tom with blue eyes. Coincidence? I think not. Not to mention that Brambleclaw is a dark tabby, and that Squirrel is a ginger she cat, this seems a bit strange. Hollypaw also reminds me very much of leafpools personailty, sweet, kind, and gentle. Notice how Jaypaw's name is JAY, which is a bird VERY closely related to the CROW. Don't you think that Leafpool, although she couldn't raise her kits herself, would want to name it in a way after Crow? I think so.
You may all be wondering WHEN She fell pregnant, well, notice how in the play: After sunset, we need to talk, she meets with crowfeather, and tells him: Theres somthing I think you should know... but she changes her mind about telling him as SOON as he mentions Night and their kits. I feel that Crowfeaher dosen't feel any LOVE for Night, and that he is her mate simply to prove he is loyal to wind clan, soft-of like:
"hey, look, Im loyal, I have kit's with...err...whatshername!" If you understand.
Take a close look at somthing from the FAQ:
There are rumors that one or more of the kits--especially Jaypaw--are secretly the children of Crowfetaher and Leafpool. What do you make of this?
--Emily
Erin's response: It's an interesting rumor but I couldn't possibly comment......
Another thing said by the Erins that leaves us wondering is:
In Warriors, you always need to look for the meaning between the words that are spoken out loud, and this play is no different. If you look closely enough, you might even spot some clues to what's going on in the Power of Three.....
This may just have adressed many things that will happen in the Power of Three, but this may also include the kits parents.
Here is an excerpt from "After sunset; We need to talk"
LEAFPOOL: Crowfeather, wait!
CROWFEATHER: What?! Leafpool, what are you doing here?
LEAFPOOL: I…I wanted to see you.
CROWFEATHER (wary, glancing around him to check no one’s watching): Why?
LEAFPOOL (surprised): Because it’s moons since I spoke to you! And…and there’s something I think you should know.
A lot has happened to them, and there may be things they want to discuss, but this seems to be VERY important news, especially the way she stutters a little, saying "And...and theres somthing I think you should know" If it was a quick chat with no important information why would she possibly be nervous? also, at the very end, Leafpool mutters to herself: , "Good-bye, Crowfeather.....I Hope we won't regret that we didn't talk today" Was the news that important?
Lastly, and this to me is the key feature in the whole theory, is that Spottedleaf tells Leafpool that she faces a destiny unlike any medicine cat before her -
Why would she say this if her important role in the books ended at the end of sunset?
Think about that.
Somthing else from Dark river:
- Why was Leafpool so fond of secrets? Secrets about Mothwing, Secrets about Starclan, and Jaypaw guessed there were even more secrects in is mentors heart, secrets she guarded so closely, he had never been able to glimpse them.
This is a very obvious pointer towards the Jay/Leaf/Crow theory.
Another thing is during Outcast:
This happened on the way to Shadowclan to get Tawnypelt: Lionpaw said "It would be nice to see Tawnypelts kits, after all, they're my kin." When Lionpaw said this, Brambleclaw gave him a very nervous look. Perhaps Brambleclaw did know about the kits after all? And Jaypaw could sense that Leafpool was extremely nervous about the three leaving! But she was trying to cover it up! Yet another suspicious bit of evidence.
And THAT is why I belive in the Crow/Leaf/Jay theory.
By Lunastar.
A lot of people have been wondering, If Jaypaw, and maybe his other siblings are actually the kit's of Leafpool and Crowfeather, born in secrecy, there is much evidence to back up this interesting theory, for example, in 'The sight' Jaypaw mentions remembering journying through the snow, and asks leafpool if it was the great journey, her response is as follows:
Tension crackled through Leafpool's fur. "No, the Great Journey was long before you were born. But your... your mother did make a long journey with you through the snow when you were very small. You were born outside the hollow, and she had to wait until you were all strong enough to travel."
Notice how she says your mother, not her sisters name, and there is so much tension in her voice, perhaps she was worried Jaypaw would remember somthing else, that she was in fact his mother. After all, it says how he was born outside the hollow, meaning Leafpool and Squirrelflight (As Im sure Leaf would have confessed to her sister) could easily have slipped out whilst Leafpool gave birth, so that no one found out. She also speaks VERY slowly, as if she's trying to make sure she dosen't slip up and say the wrong thing, for eg. "your...your mother" she does not want any information to seep out, perhaps she had her kitten outside ThunderClan camp, possibly either by the Moonpool or near WindClan territory, maybe to be with Crowfeather, and after her kitting, she gave the kits to her sister to raise. They would have a similar smell, after all They are sisters. And the long journey away would cover any scent of Leafpool on the kits.
Somewhere near the end of 'Sunset,' it says how Leafpool has gained some weight, and is looking "rather plump" It could be because their is more food, but it could also be because she is pregnant. Also remember that pregnant cats eat more.
Another peice of evidence, is that to quote "when squirrelflight's milk didn't come" of course her milk wouldn't come, if they weren't her kits in the first place! Not to mention how eager she was to get out of the nursery and back to warrior duties, she would need a little longer to recover, had she actually given birth.
Here's a Clue from Dark river. This happens when Leafpool is telling Jaypaw to find out where Hollypaw is, and provides yet more evidence that Hollypaw is also Leafpool's daughter.
"You have to try now!" Leafpool hissed.
Jaypaw's pelt bristled. "But she's probably just gone off by herself for a bit." What was wrong with Leafpool? She sounded more worried than Squirrelflight!
Who could be more concerned with Hollypaw's disappearance than Squirrelflight? After all, it is assumed that she is her mother. But this quote begs to differ. It is basically showing that Leafpool is much more upset about Hollypaw's absence than her sister, If Leafpool was Hollypaw's rightful mother, than it would prove perfectly normal for her to show so much distress.
A clue from Dark River would be taken from this quite:
Leafpool was staring at her with troubled eyes. "I'm glad you're safe," she meowed.
"I'm sorry I worried everyone," Hollypaw replied.
"Don't do it again." Leafpool's mew was suddenly fierce.
Hollypaw bristled. You sound like my mother!
Leafpool showed a little too much worry in this passage. maybe she would 'sound' like Hollypaw's mother because she really is? Why else would Leafpool be so concerned, and become so fiercely protective of the kit's? They may be her kin, but she seems a little bit TOO worried for simply an aunt.
Another clue taken from Dark River:
Crowfeather was staring at Leafpool, his eyes glittering. "Don't forget, Breezepaw, ThunderClan actually celebrates mixed blood."
Leafpool jerked her head backward as though Crowfeather had raked his claws across her muzzle. She turned quickly and hurried away.
Mixed blood. Why would Crowfeather say such a thing? And why would Leafpool be taken so aback? The only reason that seems logical is that Crowfeather knows about the kits, and that they now belong to THUNDERCLAN.
Here's a quote from Vicky Holmes:
Saharastar: DO Leafpool and Crowfeather have kits together?
Vicky Holmes: This would be way too much of a spoiler! Wait and see, Saharastar...
Why would they conceal the answer to this? Just a straightforward no would end the theory, but instead they are letting us use our imagination...
Lastly, there is the coat colours, and the personailty, Crowfeather is a grey-black stubborn, ill-tempered tom with blue eyes, Jaypaw is a dark-grey stubborn, ill-tempered tom with blue eyes. Coincidence? I think not. Not to mention that Brambleclaw is a dark tabby, and that Squirrel is a ginger she cat, this seems a bit strange. Hollypaw also reminds me very much of leafpools personailty, sweet, kind, and gentle. Notice how Jaypaw's name is JAY, which is a bird VERY closely related to the CROW. Don't you think that Leafpool, although she couldn't raise her kits herself, would want to name it in a way after Crow? I think so.
You may all be wondering WHEN She fell pregnant, well, notice how in the play: After sunset, we need to talk, she meets with crowfeather, and tells him: Theres somthing I think you should know... but she changes her mind about telling him as SOON as he mentions Night and their kits. I feel that Crowfeaher dosen't feel any LOVE for Night, and that he is her mate simply to prove he is loyal to wind clan, soft-of like:
"hey, look, Im loyal, I have kit's with...err...whatshername!" If you understand.
Another piece of compelling evidence is taken from outcast, when hollypaw asks squirrel how she managed to have kits and be a warrior:
"You had kits," Hollypaw meowed. "but you managed to be a warrior as well. How do you do it?"
Squirrelflight narrowed her eyes, and for a moment Hollypaw thought she saw something flash in their green depths, some emotion she couldn't understand. But her mother's voice was even as she asked, "Why do you want to know that?"
This shows clearly that Squirrel is hiding something she knows from her "Daughter"Squirrelflight narrowed her eyes, and for a moment Hollypaw thought she saw something flash in their green depths, some emotion she couldn't understand. But her mother's voice was even as she asked, "Why do you want to know that?"
Take a close look at somthing from the FAQ:
There are rumors that one or more of the kits--especially Jaypaw--are secretly the children of Crowfetaher and Leafpool. What do you make of this?
--Emily
Erin's response: It's an interesting rumor but I couldn't possibly comment......
Another thing said by the Erins that leaves us wondering is:
In Warriors, you always need to look for the meaning between the words that are spoken out loud, and this play is no different. If you look closely enough, you might even spot some clues to what's going on in the Power of Three.....
This may just have adressed many things that will happen in the Power of Three, but this may also include the kits parents.
Here is an excerpt from "After sunset; We need to talk"
LEAFPOOL: Crowfeather, wait!
CROWFEATHER: What?! Leafpool, what are you doing here?
LEAFPOOL: I…I wanted to see you.
CROWFEATHER (wary, glancing around him to check no one’s watching): Why?
LEAFPOOL (surprised): Because it’s moons since I spoke to you! And…and there’s something I think you should know.
A lot has happened to them, and there may be things they want to discuss, but this seems to be VERY important news, especially the way she stutters a little, saying "And...and theres somthing I think you should know" If it was a quick chat with no important information why would she possibly be nervous? also, at the very end, Leafpool mutters to herself: , "Good-bye, Crowfeather.....I Hope we won't regret that we didn't talk today" Was the news that important?
Lastly, and this to me is the key feature in the whole theory, is that Spottedleaf tells Leafpool that she faces a destiny unlike any medicine cat before her -
Why would she say this if her important role in the books ended at the end of sunset?
Think about that.
Somthing else from Dark river:
- Why was Leafpool so fond of secrets? Secrets about Mothwing, Secrets about Starclan, and Jaypaw guessed there were even more secrects in is mentors heart, secrets she guarded so closely, he had never been able to glimpse them.
This is a very obvious pointer towards the Jay/Leaf/Crow theory.
Another thing is during Outcast:
This happened on the way to Shadowclan to get Tawnypelt: Lionpaw said "It would be nice to see Tawnypelts kits, after all, they're my kin." When Lionpaw said this, Brambleclaw gave him a very nervous look. Perhaps Brambleclaw did know about the kits after all? And Jaypaw could sense that Leafpool was extremely nervous about the three leaving! But she was trying to cover it up! Yet another suspicious bit of evidence.
And THAT is why I belive in the Crow/Leaf/Jay theory.
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